I had a player today place a bet, then not answer and not lose points. Is this a choice, or a mistake. If it’s a choice, I want to know so I can inform players if it’s with intent.
Thanks, and wagering has been VERY well received.
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Hi @Hirebruce2day,
While this is not the intent, this does occur due to the current design of all non-answers not affecting the score/rankings as Ross previously mentioned in this thread:
Thanks for your feedback! Please stay tuned as our team works on correcting this function.
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Hi Jemma,
Any timeline on fixing it so a non-answer on a wager question, would result in lost points?
Lots of our “big” teams use this as a strategy…would be great to remove this option.
Thanks.
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Hi @garry, thanks for checking in! While I don’t currently have a specific timeframe on this feature, we’ll be sure to report back on this forum thread with any new updates.
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Hi, I would just like to add my voice to this topic. I would very much like for this to be fixed so that if people don’t submit an answer on wager questions and “lose points” questions, they still lose points as if they had submitted an incorrect answer. I hope it’s something you will fix soon. Thank you!
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@gnip @playvirtualgamenight @markmagoo @j.sneddon @tom1 @trivia @huntstreet @AquariumDaily
Hey everyone. I wanted to get some feedback as we’re about to implement this fix/feature. This thread has the most views so I’m going to discuss it here and have tagged the other users from the other threads about this topic.
Implementing a points-loss for a non-answered question seems pretty straight-forward on the surface. Especially if Use Question Timer is enabled. When the question timer reaches zero, if the the player hasn’t answered, then trigger any lost points per the Points Wager or Lose Points When Incorrect settings.
However, it gets murkier if Use Question Timer is disabled. Some hosts prefer not to have a question timer and give their players an open-ended amount of time to answer a question, and then stop the answering when they see fit - which happens once you enable Show Answer Results (A), Show Correct Answer (C), or any of the various Rankings Leaderboards. However, we’re discussing when, in this use-case, you would want to see the lost points applied. If there’s no question timer, does the points-loss occur once any of the above views are enabled? Does it occur once you activate another question? If so, then showing the rankings on the current question wouldn’t have the lost points reflected until you trigger the next question.
What about revisiting questions by the host? When Use Question Timer is enabled, if the timer runs out while a player is on the question, they they are locked out and cannot ever answer the question again, even if the question is revisited. If they were not signed in on that question, or the active question is updated to a new question before the timer runs out, upon the host revisiting the old question the player can still answer the question (and a new timer is triggered).
With Use Question Timer disabled, is a player allowed to answer a question if they didn’t answer it before? As that is how it works now. If there’s no question timer, then the player can always answer a question if it’s revisited by the host. But if they are to lose points for not answering, how does that work upon revisiting the question with no question timer enabled? It seems they should not be allowed to answer the question again if there’s any loss of points applied for not answering the first time.
Curious about your thoughts on this use-case. As I said above, the more standard setting of having Use Question Timer enabled is pretty straight-forward thankfully.
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Heya Ross, thanks for putting the question out there. I’ll detail my particular use cases here for you to see how I would integrate it.
We exclusively use the question timer for all of our corporate events. We’re often on a time crunch, so we need to instill some pressure on players, as well as use the decreasing points feature to eliminate possibilities of a tie score as much as possible. If I need to hurry it along faster than the displayed timer, I then use the show answer results to forcefully stop people from being able to submit and show the score right away. I’ll verbally tell them that we’re moving faster during the show so that they don’t get too mad when I end a question early. If I were to use the lose-points feature, I’d want it to only apply when showing the correct answer. On longer questions, I might show the answer results to give them insight to the crowd, and I wouldn’t want the loss to be enabled there. I wouldn’t want it on “next question” either, because sometimes we get a bad question (a number with a decimal point in the Numerical Answer question, and they don’t have a button for decimals on the screen) and I don’t want to award or take away any points, so I would move to the next question without showing the correct answer.
Usually I revisit a question if I accidentally move the active question too quickly. So the timer rarely finishes. This is why I would only want point actions to take place on showing the question, just in case of minor user errors by the host.
I would think losing points on a missed answer should mean that you can’t ever answer a question that has been displayed at any point. I would hate to see a person join a show late and then start off with negative points bc the system sees them as having “missed” questions they weren’t even present for.
Hope the above helps in some way, happy to directly email to limit any clutter on the thread!
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